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Dodge Ram 1500 vs Toyota Tundra


Dodge Ram 1500 vs. Toyota Tundra - Comparison

The following compares the 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 2008 Toyota Tundra.

There are four engines available in a 2007 Dodge Ram 1500. The HEMI, in addition to being one of the most powerful V8's on the road, has a cylinder deactivation feature that shuts off half of the cylinders as driving conditions allow, reducing fuel consumption and improving overall fuel economy. This was a good move by Dodge to incorporate this feature into their engine. Dodge also offers a flex-fuel engine, but we don't think it's much of a selling point. Because most people in the US have limited access to the flex-fuel "E85", and because it is often times much more expensive than regular gasoline, the benefit of owning a flex-fuel engine is small.

Because of the dramatic engine technology differences (DOHC v. SOHC or Pushrod), the Ram is at a distinct disadvantage when compared with the Tundra.

The HEMI has quite a bit of power (i.e., 345hp and 375 ft-lbs of torque), which makes it comparable to the Tundra 5.7L with 381hp and 401 ft-lbs of torque. Because of it's older push-rod design, it does very well on the low-end of the RPM range and that translates to decent off-the-line performance. While the new Tundra is definitely faster, the HEMI is very respectable.

The HEMI's biggest downside when compared to the Tundra is fuel economy. EPA rating on an 07 HEMI Quadcab SLT is 14 mpg city and 18 mpg highway, but we must say this is overestimated. Based on personal experience, it can be difficult for this truck to average 12 mpg with the HEMI engine. Obviously fuel economy is affected by a lot of factors including fuel quality, driving habits, altitude and climate, etc., but it's clear based on other reviews, and other knowledge knowledge, the HEMI loves to consume fuel at an alarming rate. This is a big downside to the HEMI. Assuming a new Tundra averages 16 mpg and a new Ram 12 mpg , the Ram will cost 30% more to fuel. Even if you give the HEMI the benefit of the doubt in terms of fuel economy, it is still less powerful, making the winner in this category easy to choose.

Decent performance makes the HEMI worthy of recognition, but that recognition is overshadowed by poor fuel economy as a result of the old push-rod engine design.

Comparing the Transmissions

The Dodge Ram is unique in that it is the only truck on the market to offer a 6 speed manual transmission with a V8 in a half-ton. With the HEMI, the only transmission available is a 5 speed automatic. The Tundra also offers only one transmission choice with it's most powerful engine, a 6-speed automatic with the 5.7L. Combine the Tundra's extra gear with a tow rating that's more than 2000 lbs higher, and it's clear that the Tundra's transmission is superior.

Comparing the Brakes

Both the Ram and the Tundra offer 4-wheel disc brakes, but that's the end of the similarities. The Tundra has 4-wheel ABS, the Ram only rear wheel ABS. Also, the Tundra's rotors are all ventilated while the Ram has ventilated rotors in the front only. Some may argue that because the front brakes are responsible for 90% of a vehicle's stopping power, the rear rotors don't need ventilation. While we agree that is true, we don't understand why the Dodge's rear rotors are larger than the front (13.9 inch solid rotors rear, 13.4 inch ventilated rotors up front) but not ventilated. Both trucks also offer electronic brake force distribution.

Taking the specs and setting them aside for the moment, measured stopping distances are fairly similar. A Ram QuadCab SLT 4×4 stopped from 60mph in 135.6 feet. The most recent test of a similarly equipped DoubleCab Tundra Limited 4×4 stopped from 60mph in 131 feet.

Again, we chose Toyota, but this time by a mile. While the Ram and Tundra basically tied in terms of stopping distance, the lack of 4 wheel ABS, smaller diameter front rotors, and non-ventilated rear rotors will result in brake fade while towing, hauling, or during long trips. Toyota's superior components win out here.

Comparing the Frames

Tundra's partially boxed frame is still a question mark when compared to the competition. While Dodge offers a head -to-toe fully boxed frame, it also has fewer cross-members than the Tundra. Without knowing the moments of both frames it's hard to say which is stronger but we're willing to bet the Ram's frame is tougher. For the record, we think the Tundra should have a fully-boxed frame to better measure-up to the domestics.

Comparing the Payload

Toyota and Dodge have similar payload ratings in the DoubleCab 4×4 & QuadCab 4×4 configurations. Toyota's max payload is 1,580 lbs, the Dodge 1,500 lbs. Payload accessibility and utility are just as important, and we think the Tundra edges out the Dodge.

For starters, the Tundra has a tailgate assist feature that makes opening and closing the tailgate easy - even if your hands are full. Third, the Tundra is rated higher. In defense of the Ram, we really like the Dodge's "Activgate" cargo management system.If this system was a standard feature the Ram would have beat the Tundra out in this category.

Comparing Towing

When a truck has a stronger, more powerful engine, it will typically pull more than a truck with a less powerful engine. That couldn't be more true when comparing the max tow ratings of the the Dodge Ram and the Toyota Tundra. The Tundra is listed as having a max tow rating of 10,800 lbs, the Ram 1500 only 8,750 lbs - of course, these are for the work versions of these trucks. The Tundra pulls 10,300 lbs in this configuration, the Ram 8,500 lbs. While the Ram's rating certainly puts it on par with other trucks in the segment, the Tundra wins by almost 2,000 lbs.

Conclusion

In conclusion, the Ram's mechanicals are very good. For starters, the HEMI is a powerful engine that gets up and goes. It is good that Dodge offers a 6-speed manual with it's smaller V8, and the fully-boxed frame is a nice option. However, Tundra is more powerful, a better tower, and it's a more sophisticated design than the Ram. The Dodge has a severe shortcoming in terms of fuel economy. It is known that the HEMI can get as low as 8 mpg before (lead foot, it's true), but 8 mpg is unacceptable under any circumstances in today's environment (no pun intended).

Dodge Ram - Another Opinion...

Dodge's Ram is available in 1500, 2500 and 3500 versions, which translates to half-, three-quarter- and one-ton ratings, respectively. Ram pickups come in regular cab and four-door Quad Cab body styles. Light-duty Rams can have V-6 or V-8 power, while heavy-duty models can have V-8 or diesel power. A sunroof is available on Quad Cab models, and Sirius Satellite Radio is offered. A Power Wagon version of the 2500 pickup is available. Dodge also offers a Mega Cab model.

Exterior

Regular-cab Rams can be equipped with a 6.3-foot cargo bed, ride a 120.5-inch wheelbase and stretch to 207.7 inches long overall. With an 8-foot cargo bed, the Ram has a 140.5-inch wheelbase and an overall length of 229.7 inches.

Quad Cab models have a folding rear seat. Ram 1500 models with cloth seats come with YES Essentials stain-, odor- and static-resistant seat fabric.

A 345-hp, 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 is also available. A six-speed manual transmission is standard, and a four-speed automatic is optional. With the 4.7- or 5.7-liter engine, the automatic is a five-speed unit. Rear- and four-wheel-drive models are available.

Four-wheel ABS is standard in the Laramie. The Ram 1500 is easy to drive and steer, and it responds predictably. Special features include locking front and rear differentials, an electronically disconnecting front sway bar and a custom-built 12,000-pound winch. Polished, forged-aluminum 17-inch wheels hold 33-inch BFGoodrich tires.

For 2008, Dodge introduced a new version of the Ram 2500: The SXT provides additional features such as chrome bumpers; power windows, locks and mirrors; speed control; and keyless entry.

Regular 2500 pickups are available with a diesel engine or the Hemi V-8. An optional Cummins 6.7-liter turbo-diesel inline-six develops 350 hp and 610 pounds-feet of torque (650 with the six-speed automatic transmission).

Ram 2500 pickups with the regular cab have an 8-foot cargo bed, ride a 140.5-inch wheelbase and measure 227.7 inches long overall. Quad Cab models come with either a 6.3- or 8-foot cargo bed and ride a 140.5- or 160.5-inch wheelbase. All heavy-duty Ram models have a Sweptline (slab-sided) cargo bed. Long seat bottoms in the Ram 2500 offer an easy-chair experience. Overall, the Ram 2500 doesn't feel much like a typical heavy-duty pickup. Regular-cab Ram 3500 models have dual rear wheels, but Quad Cab pickups can have single or dual rear wheels. 

Mega Cab

Dodge calls the Ram Mega Cab model the longest-cab pickup truck ever. Measuring 111.1 inches long, the cab offers 71 cubic feet of cargo volume (7.6 cubic feet behind the rear seat). Built on a 160.5-inch wheelbase, the Mega Cab model stretches to 247.7 inches long overall. Overall, the 2008 Dodge Ram and the 2008 Toyota Tundra are close competitors and are both  excellant trucks.